Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers
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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.
Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:
If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:
the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.
Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!
ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.
BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.
AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.
*** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.
This girl is going under the name 'Rimma' and 'Diana'. If you get letters, save all them and write them on this site.
the girls name is Marina,she calles herself Marisha,from yoshkar-ola.
this is the first letter.
Hello my new friend.
I wandered with my girlfriend in the Internet in searches of the partner much.
We chose to ourselves prince.
You have interested me, and I want write to you.
My complete name is Marina my tender name is Marisha.
I was born on the 25 of January in 1981 in Yoshkar-Ola city.
I was disappointed in Russian men. Sometimes they are severe and uncivilized.
Therefore I have decided to search in search for my future husband and want to
have kids as well.
My growth 174 of weight of 59 kg.
I live in Yoshkar-Ola city. Yoshkar-Ola is a small city in Russia.
When I was the small girl I studied at school 19.
Now I am working in this school as the teacher of a history.
I teach a history of Russia and World history.
I like my job and that collective in which I work.
For 4 years that I work at school children have grown fond of me.
They like to visit my lessons very much.
I work 5 days per one week.
My working day begins at 8:00, and comes to an end at 16:00.
To me my job is important.
Now I want tell you a little about my city.
There are 30 schools, 2 universities and more than 20 educational institutions
in the city
My city is famous for the industrial enterprises.
There are a lot of cultural values in my city.
It is monuments, theatres and cinemas.
Unfortunately I do not have computer of a house.
I should write to you the letters from my girlfriends.
Tell me about your city? About your job? Do you like your job?
Tell to me about yourself.
Send your nice photo to me.
Can is divided with me by the experiences, I shall understand all.
Ask me any questions.
I with pleasure on them shall answer.
Your girlfriend from
Hello my love!!!
How are you?
How weather in your city?
In us weather, today very cold.
If you want to invite me in xxxx that when you will do it? I think we can
tell about it on the phone on this theme. But for this purpose You can put to
me money (10-20 Euro) to my bank bill. If you really want to do that I
can give you number of my bank bill. What do you think of it? After
that I can buy a sim-card and insert into the telephone my girlfriend.
I shall give you a telephone number. And you can cause me.
My mum has asked, that I have transferred you big and hot congratulations,
And also the strongest embraces.
after this was the visa money,the trip to moscow..etc.
Hey does anyone have any more info on this one. I am starting a free Web Site for her so she has to give it up or change her look I am trying to get some real good photos of her right now and I am just stringing her along for now I want to send to the Site that I am putting on the Web just to let her know the gig’s up and tell her to get some new photo these ones are not going to work and cost her some more money. So if you have any more info on this one Please Email it to me or post it here Thank You and I Thank you for time and so does the Next Guy that this one is Scamming. My email is firstname.lastname@example.org This image was also posted here: Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers
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anonymous from United States
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