I had a profile posted on an American dating web site and a female from my area answered me.
Her letter was a few lines long, in good English and she seemed honest and cute, so I replied.
The letter said she had a read-only trial account and would not be able to receive messages,
so she included a yahoo email address. She asked me to write to this yahoo email address.
I did this and a few days later her trial account was gone, she explained that she deleted
it because she found me. (that is what she answered, when I asked her about it)
This girl claimed to live in Kazan, Tartastan, 26 years old and called herself Barbi.
There was something suspicious about her letters, in particular I always had the
impression that she did not really read mine every time. Sometimes she wrote
personal, matching replies, then sometimes not. her photos of which she sent
about 25 so far, had number like 5.jpg, 6.jpg, 35.jpg etc.
Yesterday I did a query for some phrases of some of her emails and found them
posted on 2 other web sites. Apparently she wrote identical letters to other guys
using different names and different pictures. She or he asked those guys for money,
supposedly for tickets or visa paperwork. I guess I am lucky that she never asked
me for any money. However, I felt fooled when I saw "my" emails had also been
sent in parts to other guys.
For that reason I will post her here letters. I know that parts of these letters
have been posted on 2 other sites, but not all.
I include the full headers in the first email. The sender comes from a russian
dial-up but in another email I sent her a URL to one of my web sites and apparantly
"she" uses some sort of satellite DSL for the downstream, the IP number was
84.xx (to be filled in later).
Authentication-Results: mta251.mail.mud.yahoo.com from=yahoo.com; domainkeys=neutral (no sig)
Received: from 126.96.36.199 (EHLO aqua.relinfo.ru) (188.8.131.52)
by mta251.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; Wed, 07 Sep 2005 23:02:29 -0700
Received: from [184.108.40.206] (92.214.dialup.mari-el.ru [220.127.116.11])
by aqua.relinfo.ru (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j885LxCa024528
for ; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 09:28:33 +0400 (MSD)
Hello Peter! Have good day? The computer in service of acquaintances
found to me Some profiles of people which coincide with my inquiry. I
Preliminary studied them and has decided to send you to the first the
message Because your profile seems to me more interesting. I hope,
that You have time to send me some messages that we could it is better
to learn about each other. I shall tell a little about myself; my age
of 26 years old and my birthday on On July, 22. I was not married and
I live in an apartment with my parents. Some years, after the ending
of training I work seller of home appliances in a supermarket. To me
To like productive leisure, periodically go in for sports for
maintenance of a body. I like to travel and be in different places,
but My work does not allow me to do it frequently. I have many
friends, We sometimes together spend time, play billiards and tennis,
we have Other entertainment. I send you the picture that you knew my
person. Me very much like different sweet things, such as a pie, cake,
sweet. But frequently I do not permit itself to have it to not be
thick. Still I love beautiful clothes and different things of light
colours. I like of light tone, such as light-blue, pink, beige. And
what your favourite colour? Please Ask things interesting you about me
and inform me some The information on you: what you love an
entertainment? What your character? What You love qualities in women?
Whether You had the wife? I shall answer on your questions and to
inform you it is more about itself in following e-mail! I shall be To
wait for your messages. My email is email@example.com I with
impatience shall wait letter from you and I shall answer you at once
as soon as you to me write. it will be pleasant for me to see your new
photos and to learn a lot of new about you. Write to me I wait. Your
Dear mine , where you were gone, why any more do not write me
the letters, I wait already what is the time, and them all no.
There can be I you something has offended? Write to me please.
With impatience I wait Barbi.
Hi Peter! Have good day! Peter, you ask, where I live - to To regret
it is far from you. Otherwise it was not necessary for us much e-mail,
To learn each other. I for the first time have acquaintance through
the Internet. It was very difficult to me to place my structure in a
service of acquaintances, because I am in Russia, the service of
acquaintances does not accept the members from this country. I had to
specify in a profile, that I am in USA. In this letter I shall inform
you a little information myself and if the dialogue with me will be
interesting to you, I shall tell about myself in more detail in the
following letters. I live in an average part of Russia, in city Kazan
in Tatarstan republic. But if we shall decide to meet, I hope, that it
not Will be a problem for us because I have made a little Travel to
other countries. I was in the several countries of Europe; For example
Turkey, Italy, Germany. I made these travel as The tourist. Therefore
Peter, you should not have excitement be relative That we not beside.
I such woman, that if I shall like The person for a meeting I shall
reach even on the moon. Besides in Our days is not a problem to make
such travel. I not I worry about it and I have necessary feelings to
get acquainted and it is possible To have relations with the person of
other state. It is very interesting - Other culture, thinking,
traditions. For me this new-Probably and you Peter Can learn, that
such the Russian woman. I hope that you have not lost interest to me
and will answer me soon. I wait for yours e-mail, my American friend.
HI Peter! I am pleased to receive your reciprocal message. For me it
was pleasant to receive the letter from you today. I am very glad that
you have written to me. Thank for your picture, it me to like. I shall
be To increase and to unpack it. I liked absolutely all your pictures.
That picture with the clown really amusing! What small little mouse!
You have made absolutely correctly, that have not listened to the
neighbour and have let off that little mouse. Peter You e-mail means
for me, that I too was interesting to you. You Really Peter, see a
picture of me nice? Peter, at me is present to you It is a lot of
questions and I would like to ask them in the messages, I hope you
Will allow to me answers to them - OK? You for me the nice person, And
on this for me it is important to know your opinion on some things. Me
to not irritate, that you to be more senior than me. I to search for
the mature man, which would be to wise and scientific life. I like the
men which is more senior than me and can learn me to something in this
short life. I to want to connect destiny with the man of such age as
you. I think, that you read my structure and could see there, that I
haves serious intentions to get acquainted with the good person for
relations . I shall try to tell a little about my character. I do not
know as it to start, I think, that I very romantic person. I like to
communicate with people, it is pleasant to me Good humour. I very much
appreciate such qualities in people, as fidelity and honesty. I
believe in love, and I think it very valuable thing which needs to be
protected. I very much The jealous person. I adore, when to me pay
compliments and is ready to listen to them indefinitely. For me it is
necessary, that around of me there was a cleanliness and the order, I
frequently am engaged cleaning. Also to me to like to prepare for a
meal, various tasty things. It is pleasant to me romantic relations
between the man and The woman, but probably all women dream to get
acquainted with good The person to have with him beautiful romantic
relations. But frequently such things come to an end Very quickly. I
have no intention to spend myself on such acquaintances. While I have
not met In the life of such person to which I would decide to give
myself and the life. But me it would be desirable to find such person.
I think, that for the woman the main thing to have in a life not
Career or other success, and strong family and the favourite person
beside what to care of him. Tell please, you dream to meet what woman
in the life? Excuse Peter, that I ask you to discuss such frank thing
with The person whom you know couple of days. But it is interesting to
me to know It about you. I shall wait for yours e-mail. Yours
Hi , I was sad that you do not write me and do not answer on my
letters. There can be I you than that has offended or you simply play
with me in games? I wait from you of the answer. Yours Barbi.
At that point I had started to ignore her because her letters were ridiculous, not reflecting what I had written.
However, things picked up then again..
I have documented proof about Elena Scherbinina as I have already posted. I reiterate that I wired her, or whoever it was, 500 dollars. The thing about this scam is simply this. I started communicating with her on True four months or more ago. Sometimes three emails a day. We talked and talked about all kinds of things. I do not think these were form letters at all, and I do not think it was a man. She even called my cell phone one time and it was definitely a woman. Over one hundred emails sent and received before she sent me a letter from Turiel Tur that I have kept complete with a phone number and address. Turiel Tur is supposedly a travel agency in Perm. The documentation attached to the mail from them looked authentic, but that means nothing and I knew that. But there is a phone number and an address, plus the fact that the 500 I wired was wired to Elena Scherbinina which means someone with that ID picked it up I would imagine. So, I just emailed firstname.lastname@example.org and told him or her that they had two days to send my 500 dollars back by wire or I would have the Russian authorities all over them and they more than likely will go to jail in the end. I intend to do just that too, but it will take me a day or two to get everrything I need together, and that will give them time to think about this stupidity of thier's also. Someone picked up that wire that was wired to Elena Scherbinina and the Russian police should have a field day with that simple fact. Two days and I start this process.
anonymous from United States
I want to say one more thing. As someone who lived through the cold war, I think it is fantastic that russians and americans can work together, talk freely together, and communicate like this, even if it is about such a lousy situation...lol. You young guys and girls do not really understand what the bad ole days were like. I enjoy this cooperation from good, ethical russians with so much integrity. I certainly appreciate the help and advice. Here is one letter of dozens.
have decided to go ahead and pay this 520 dollars. But it will be the first or second week of July before I can do this.
I will do it by Western Union as I do not do electronic internet money transfers at all.
Please advise me if this is acceptable, and how to transfer the funds by Western Union.
From: Travel agency <TRIEL-TUR84@yandex.ru>
To: Bobby Seay <email@example.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 1:03:23 PM
Subject: travel agency 'TRIEL-TUR'
Hello Mr. Bobby Seay
We welcomed you, by travel agency 'TRIEL-TUR'
License for conducting tourist activity (INN 7701214733; OGRH 1047796655730;)
The certificate of conformity of Gosstandart of Russia N GOST R 50690 - 2000
List of services given by our agency:
1) Services of Tour operator on organization of internal tourism
2) Services of Tour operator on organization of exit tourism
3) Services of Travel agent
4) Separate services of Tour operator and Travel agent
5) Organization of Excursions
Beforehand we warn you about the responsibility ' about nondisclosure of the information which we inform you '
We write you concerning the visa for ' SCHERBININA ELENA '
We warn, our agency cannot give you any personal information concerning our clients.
'SCHERBININA ELENA ' client of our agency and any disclosure of information concerning her carries
Criminal liability according to law of the Russian Federation.
Now we can inform you that 'SCHERBININA ELENA ' has concluded contract with our agency for granting for her Tourist visa.
(Contract N 78644; Visa N 38538263; Passport N 210493942)
Really our agency gives her package deal on granting of the visa and the passport for travel abroad.
All documents for her travel abroad are available.
'SCHERBININA ELENA ' should pay for the visa 620 $.SCHERBININA ELENA has already paid 100 $, remained 520 $.
List of services given by our agency for 'SCHERBININA ELENA '
1) Visa, and its manufacture - 245 $ (demands payment)
2) Medical insurance - 130 $ (demands payment)
3) The passport for travel abroad and its manufacture - 135 $ (demands payment)
4) Consular gathering - 65 $ it (is paid)
5) Photos (5*5) - 45 $ it (is paid)
Thus, 'SCHERBININA ELENA ' should pay us 520 $.
You can pay for her visa. For this purpose in our agency there are special agents.
In case our client refuses payment of services of agency he loses the
right on purchase of the visa in conformity with point 4.5 of the
contract which says: The Client which on what or to the reasons refuses
or evades from payment in the terms of the basic services established by
agency has not the right to further cooperation with our agency and the
present contract will be terminated is not dependent the client whether
or not ' wishes that.
Sincere travel agency 'TRIEL-TUR'
Street. Lobvinskaya. house. 7
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anonymous from United States
Is there any information my good Russian friends that you can give me, or have discovered about this Turiel Tur in Perm? After dozens of emails, Elena or whoever had me so convinced I decided to send the money directly to her, but did not do so until August. 19. I have the Western Union customer receipt right here. 500 US dollars sent to Elena Scherbinina. There is a MTCN number I mailed to firstname.lastname@example.org. Charges were $43.00, but there is no invoice number or anything like that. I have this receipt, however. Now, considering the Turiel Tur letter, the fact that this was mailed to recipient Elena Scherbinina, I gave odds of 3 to 1 she was for real. I told her that. I gambled and lost. So it goes, but the reason I did so was that if it was a scam then there was so much evidence that an investigation would undoubtedly, so it seems to me, end up with someone going to jail. And so it seems. I am going to follow this through.
email@example.com from United States
I am going to make one more comment. I am far removed from the street, but within my heart I am always the hard, cold Atlanta street hippie I was long, long ago. We were all for love and peace back then, and perhaps the greatest thing about the internet is that it brings the people of the world closer together in spite of the corporate greed and idiot politics. I was at the first Earth Day in 1970, and I have fought the long battle to save the planet. For 40 years I have watched the absolute stupidity that has the entire globe in what I believe a hopeless situation now. Global warming is locked in, the other environmental prolbems unreal and accelerating like global warming is. It may well be that we have only a few more years till total catastrophe. Pray for the Second Coming it is our only hope. Find someone to love and hang on tight, enjoy the moment, and life goes on is my philosophy at this point.
Cold and hard as the concrete and asphalt of the city, the Atlanta hippies were and are, those of us left that never destroyed ourselves with drugs and alcohol, Rough, tough creampuffs that hate having to be rough and tough. But we darn sure are and can be. I told Elena, or whoever it was, all this too. We have little fear. Do not ever think to mess with an Atlanta street hippie. We were and are just a bit different from that old Haight Ashbuy lovey dovey peace crowd....lol. I do not care where and who in the world you are. I will cause you unbelievable problems anyway I can if you dare mess with me. Well, someone has. So, fine then. I prefer to be left alone in peace, but someone wants it differently. They are going to find out that I am either the best friend you ever had, or the worst news you ever heard of if you want it that way....;)
aka Gilthoron the Stareagle
anonymous from United States
Hey Reaper! I saw your message to me. Yes, I have all kinds of emails from Elenadsprima@yahoo.com, plus this one from Turiel Tur, whoever they are, plus the Western Union receipt. But this is northwest Ga. USA my friend. I may go to the local police, a lot of which are personal friends, just for the fun of it because they will just shake their heads, more than likely, and not know what to do about it or just say it's not thier jurisdiction. Who knows. I'll give it a shot anyway. I saw where you were directed to my thread so hope you see this. You can email me at firstname.lastname@example.org. And, by the way, take it easy. We all have our room in Heartbreak Hotel. I sure have a few. Shake it off and go on...God go with you too....
Gilthoron, This thread has articles on headers http://www.delphifa..495.shtml
There is info on this site on blocking future WU / MG payments to your scammer email addy, search for it, or someonne can post for you. Trace the IP of the dating site where you met your scammer. If the IP traces to US, complain to the FBI against the services, they have jurisdiction over hosts in US.
It is definitely worth a try to go to the local police.When I went I was wondering too what they would say.Either they will laugh in your face or they take it serious...
Anyway,that's not even as far as you can go...If you want,you can contact the Russian Embassy in US and the American Embassy in Russia.At least,that's what I did.(Of course,I had to write to the Belgian part of the Embassy...)
What I have learned so far is that you can even contact The Russian President and Prime Minister,but first I should write my complaint to International Affairs of Russia.I should have the e-mail adress somewhere...If I can find it.That's my next step....
It is good that you still have everything.When I went to the police I took copies of that with me,so you still would have the originals...You can take it as far as you want,that's your choice.In my case I know that someone is going to pay,no matter how long it will take...
True,the Internet is such a wonderful thing to contact people from all over the world!It's such a shame that there are people out there who misuse it for their own profit.What with the people they screw with?That's none of their concern obviously....But remember,you'll reap what you sow.Honest people like ourselves have nothing to fear (except the fact that we have to be careful that is...) I don't want to be in their shoes when they screw the wrong man! Or the wrong woman,it's not just the guys they screw...
Anyway,I hope I have been a bit helpful.If you should have any questions,just ask!I'll try to answer them!
Sigh. yes, yes I was the fool. I watched the video. Very nicely done. Thanks for the advice and concern OJAS and Reaper. What do you think of this turiel travel thing? And I am not talking to any more scammers at the moment. Just locals, and maybe I will hook up with one nearby sooner or later. I honestly do not know why I did this when I knew this was going to happen. I could use the money, sure, but that is not the reason I am going to pursue this in the way you have advised. I will contribute by doing my part to this effort to make this harder to get away with for these criminals. I will certainly continue to run suspects who get in touch with me through this data base and report what shows up if and when anything does.
I thank Delphi for running this service for all of us out here. It is greatly appreciated. I will get this process going as soon as I have time. I am doing online school and a lot of other work at the moment. Soon I am going to go to the local cops with original and printed info, but I expect little from it. Still, it is the official place to start and must be done that way. Then I will contact Russian Detective who have already advised me. Thank you all..............
Gilthoron This image was also posted here: Dating scam from Kazan, Russia - Part 1
anonymous from United States
and no none of those blondes. But those first Perm photos I replied to are her and I have the exact same pictures.
Gilthoron This image was also posted here: Dating scam from Kazan, Russia - Part 1