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Hello ,maybe my future boyfriend!!!
I found your profile HornyMatches and found it very nice. I have decided not to waste time and just
to e-mail you.They tell that I am pretty girl , but I haven't found my soulmate yet. I have a clear vision of my man, and he lives in my dreams! He is very kind, sociable and like sex. I see us together, walking in the beautiful park and talking to each other on different points. I want to look into his
loving and sympathetic eyes. He is my knight with generous and courageous heart! He is a goal-oriented person, who knows what he wants and he will lead me to gain the secrets of this unknown beautiful world! Belly dancing, reading spiritual books, hiking, cooking, swimming, picnics and of course hot nights with crazy sex. I have some of
my pictures to share with you. If you reply to me then I will reply back with more info about me.Message me
back if interested and we start from there. I hope that I can be your soulmate. I am 27 yo.
Don't worry if I don't reply back right away, but I will surely
reply.Just being a little busy . and I am 27 y.o.
Yup, Nadia has a great body but only took a few minutes to decide this was a scam on horneymatches and the same comments from her were on my original contact message.
Too bad though. may have made an interesting session
OJAS from United States
Since I can understand my own experiences well, I'll draw upon them for amplification of a few points.
First some definitions I use : Real girl = having real intentions about relationship; scammer = having only interest in someones wallet
Your excerpts are in double quotes: ''writing first to a man on some dating site'' - In this category I had one real girl, 3 confirmed scammers, the rest (could be close to a hundred) fitting my friend Eddie's watch-list. I'll wait for an independent confirmation that one of these scamming someone else before giving any details. You seem to agree with me that about 1% of real Russian girls initiate contact, about 99% scammers do the same.
''we DO speak fluent English'' - My real girl was from Ufa, again fitting this category, again in the 1%, the rest all fit scammers level of English. There's a further point that despite good English, girls can be attracted to scamming. While I was wondering why such a person would need to scam, Eddie again proved for me that 10000 rouble Irina in
was sending e-mail from ''Atlanta'' and scamming
''beauty and brains. And good working foreign language (often two of them!)'' - Moscow ranks the most expensive city. It's difficult for Russian girls to get visa to most Western countries, where girls you quoted won't make as much income as in Moscow, to where no visa is required. Why should a Russian write to a foreigner that their men are drunkards, spend the time beating their women, even in introductory letters? For your quote supra, you'll find 100 writing what I said.
Children - You may be referring to a narrow section of real women. As for scammers, 100% conveniently have no children
Good looks - Russian men must be good looking to produce good looking progeny. Why don't scammers just wait outside any train-station along Trans-Siberian Railway, and introduce themselves with outstretched hands ''Hello I'm a scammer?''
Travels - Why do those fitting Eddie's watch-list ask money for visa alone? After all, it's just a stamp on a passport.
There are many posts you can read in many languages appreciating Eddie by narrow escapees from scam. If you have concrete evidence against any of his points, he'll happily entertatin it. E.g. We had a disagreement about your compatriots prividing their postal codes. He's a well-traveled, well-respected man, and by reading his posts, I'm sure you can learn a lot.
Eddie - I'm sure it wasn't a typo, but I have a gender confusion - After Olya, I'm used to seeing Seregaeva, but missing the last 2 characters, don't know what to make of it.
anonymous from United States
Interesting, I see some posts have disappeared from this thread now??? AND a pic!
Eddie from Sweden
OJAS...thanks for the support... although even I would admit that my info is general and not 100% infallible. For example I have come across one or two scammers on this site who claimed to have children, but never personally.
I'm not sure who Olya is, or what she'd be doing on this site... presumably a Moscow career woman with a bit of spare time at work and nothing better to do. And what she has written is accurate...for real Russian women, living in Moscow. Ironically, Moscow is just about the only place in Russia that people can make any decent money (and St Petersburg/Yekaterinburg to a lesser extent) so anyone with any talent, skills or languages has to move there.
Which leaves the rest of Russia. And believe me, there is a HUGE difference in standards between Moscow and the rest of Russia, more than in any country I have travelled....although that is slowly changing as the oil money filters out of Moscow into the provinces.
As regards real Moscow women, they can be pretty mercenary. And there are quite a few professional daters in Moscow. I once had a lengthy mail contact with a Moscow woman a couple of years ago. She had a 10-year-old son whom she supported and paid private music lessons for, and a good enough salary to run a car, etcetc. She insisted that she would only leave Moscow for a guy who could support her in the style to which she was accustomed (own car, etc)...and that she didn't expect to work either. Now I earn quite good money for Sweden, well above average, despite the huge tax burden of living in a social democratic welfare state. But I soon calculated that I would need a top executive salary by our standards to afford a Russian trophy wife, so it was out of the question.
She also sent me this mail that she'd received from another Moscow woman about foreign men and 'dating' them. It illustrates my point:
'What’s about your English, it’s better to write like this, isn’t it? In Cyrillic alphabet it’ll not come through my mailbox….
So…as for me, I can see from the beginning what guy is looking for…. Some are serious, but they are often scared of pretty and smart women. They usually ask:” Why you are here? Can’t find any boyfriend in real life or only looking for adventures or smth. Else?” Better not to send very crazy or sexy pictures….something more decent, but warm looking (like your picture is) . Old guy are usually don’t trust, they only like to play games, very great patience you must have to assure a such kind of man about your serious intentions to him. Very many men invite to spend time for vocations, even younger men…… But you never know how it can be turned out…..may be you can fall in love.
But always girl must check the information about the guy before coming to him : so many maniacs ! If you are going to visit him in his country, buy a tour better with a hotel, also make individual tour, but always ask for invitation from him . You can keep it without use, but you will need it if you be involved in some negative situation. I know many stories….
Also try not to use network here…I was disappointed…they(men) also chattering among themselves about women on site…, they invent a lot with their sick mentality sometimes…..
Attractive and young guys…. I also love them… I had one guy before…..crazy love, three times I saw him…..and nothing just now. But I met him not in internet(such guys never waist time on line!!! They can have a lot in real life)Then I met another man(50y.o.) here, and also visited him last month. And now we are going to meet again soon the same place. But I like him like a person, and may be we could marry, I don’t know, but I would like to. Here are photos of both those guys, try to compare the difference in characters….. Older man is seriously intending , have more incomes, but rather doesn’t like to spend much money. Younger guy didn’t have so much, but could spend everything he had for me, like to give all fire of his heart and all energy. Old men usually possess much money, but they can’t be generous like young do, they also can’t fall in love crazily(they can to fall only stupidly). So, you can always find in internet everything you are looking for: pretty guys, wealthy men. But money cost much more than their nominal in these situations as I could discover….. See yourself: a normal goodlooking man with money and healthy mentality always can find a woman in real life, but if he is here- something is wrong with him. So a girl must chose herself what she can hold and what never can.
I could tell you more things about all these stuff, but I don’t know you well, understand?
But is it important for you what country to go for marriage or what? What countries are more interesting for you? Scandinavian men are the most greedy in the world. They will always try you pay youself for your visit and also bring them some profit………
American are generous , but they are so lazy to move from their country, and you can’t get visa to go there, so how to meet?
Do you have many friends on-line(men)? Do you use other sites also?
Hear from you later with pleasure.. '
PS...the bit about Scandinavian men made my laugh. As mentioned, Sweden is probably the most emancipated country in the world. Women pay for themselves here. They can get pissed if you offer. So this is a culture clash (and the fact that Moscow women have a reputation for gold-digging doesn't help).
OJAS from United States
Thanks for another thought provoking post Eddie,
As always, I started with the assumption Olya is going to objectively present a different side, and her failure to take me up on my invitation only reinforces a feeling ''well-fed, well-sexed, well-off'' individual with time to burn inside some fortress.
She even had an opprotunity to answer my question in that post ''Isn't it usual after Olya, to be Seragaeva?'', if this was indeed the individual who wrote to you.
I'm glad I decided to make a google search about all of the details I could find about 'Nadia'
Of course you get this e-mail out of no where and you read it, see the pictures and you're like WOW!!, I can't believe it!
I did that mistake some years ago but fortunately, I never spent any money on anyone, I just got carried away with the fact that I thought I finally found someone for me. HAHA!
Anyway, I decided to 'play the game' and see how far this goes(because as of right now she's still going on). We e-mailed each other back and forth a few times. She told me about her, where she lives, her family, etc, etc, etc. I'm sure you all know what I'm talking about. Then I googled some of the info she gave me, and surprise surprise, obviously it didn't match a bit. Another factor that I noticed afterwards like someone mentioned above, is that she never responded direct questions. What a bummer !!
I don't know how many pictures each one of you got from her but I have gotten 28 so far. Funny thing is that I read here in another post that she even sent a picture holding a card with that person's name on it. So I was like that's just too much! But guess what?? Just a couple of hours ago I received the same picture of Nadia holding a card with my name on it. It says: HI DEAR (NAME) You can see the picture below. I started cracking up!!
I can't believe how far these scammers are willing to go just to try and get some money out of naive people who believe they're actually getting lucky to find someone like that, because you have to admit that this woman is freaking HOT !!
Well, to make this short, she asked me to please help her with $975 US. to complete the money for the trip. Obviously I'm not doing it but like I said, the game is still on as we speak so I wanna see what else she's got for me. So far I asked her to call me so we could talk over the phone about things and we'll see what happens. I'll let you know, that's for sure!!
Just wanted to write and let you know that even though she is one of the most beautiful women I have ever seen, she is not gonna take that trip to come see you. She'll ask for the money, and I'm sure if she ever got any, you wouldn't hear from her again, guaranteed !
All of you please be careful when you get mails like this, cause if you are a lonely and naive person, it can really cost you a lot !!
You all take care !!
Oh..by the way, I almost forgot. These are the e-mail addresses she used to contact me: Initial E-mail: email@example.com
Following E-mail: firstname.lastname@example.org with Yahoo ID: Absolutelyflawless (note the difference between the r and the l)
Keep and eye on them!
anonymous from Germany
I got an email of her just today with the same words. I think we should just shoot all these freaking and associal russians,
I knew that this must be a mistake because I never told my email address and I never paid on hornymatches. So thats it